Hey everybody, what's up and welcome back to the nashtea, your favorite music city podcast. I am Aly here with Ty as always, we're so excited to be talking to you guys tonight for what feels like the millionth time, but actually it's really just the first time for you guys. So excited. Yeah, but this has been a long time in the works and I think we're finally ready.
Still ironing out the kinks, but we're going to have a great time. So, um, looking forward to all that is to come. It's going to be an exciting train wreck. It is. Thank you guys for joining in emphasis on train wreck. We're so happy. So for this episode, I'm sure you've already seen in the description, we're going to be talking a little bit about how we came to be here in this beautiful magic city of music.
We're going to dive right in, but before we get there, we're going to do your favorite segment ever. Yes, it's it's become a joke at this point because I feel like he hates it I don't like putting my, yeah, yeah, exactly. No, it's important though. It provides context.
It does. And since it is what we've done in this town for, for many years, I think, why not throw our two cents into the ring? I think so. And it's funny cause like I'm really folksy, but I'll listen to a lot of like pop and like acoustic stuff and jazz and crooner stuff. And then you sing country, but you grew up listening to the golden era and you know, you're not just in a box as well.
Just fans of music in general. Yeah, we really are lean more country probably, but in our songwriting ways, but, um, Absolutely. Yeah. But as far as listening to music, we're fans of, of it all. Definitely. And for me, I've been,listening this week a lot to Sabrina Carpenter.
Have you ever heard of her? She is like the epitome of pop. She is just like, she's tiny. She's blonde. She's a little firecracker. She goes out on stage and like the little outfits. She's like, What I imagine every label wants. Even though the landscape has changed so much and there's so many like there's more room for artists that aren't cookie cutter; If you're gonna be cookie cutter and do it right : It's Sabrina.
Yes. And she's funny and she's sassy. She has the song. She's got new music out, um, but, and like nonsense and feather and she just released a Christmas EP called fruitcake. Nice. I love it. Um, but one of her songs that I, I go to first is actually off of one of her older, um, releases. It's called Sue me and it's literally just a pop girl party anthem.
Um, like, no, there's an, I'm not, I'm going to read you lyrics cause it's. It's a pop song, but it's so dang catchy. And like, it just is stuck in my head. So anyway, I'm going to come at you with more depth in the future, but I'm starting it off fun. I'm keeping it lighthearted. And, uh, yeah, for me, Sabrina Carpenter is the move right now.
Sabrina Carpenter. Yeah. All right. I'll check it out. Yeah. All right, well, for me, since you said you're into folk music, I'm going with my trusty Kingston Trio. Nice. My dad introduced me to the Kingston Trio. They were my first concert that I ever saw at Wolf Trap in Northern Virginia, and, um, their harmonies were just so great.
And the way that they, they told stories, it's a lot of what grabbed, made me gravitate towards Nashville because of the songwriters here and the way that they would, they would write stories and be able to, to tell a whole lifetime in three minutes. You know, I just thought that was, that was phenomenal.
So the Kingston trio are going to be my go to, they're, they were an old, folk band in the fifties and sixties. They kind of yeah. Turn the tides of pop music, but my song is Tom Dooley because when I was a kid, we've listened to the oldies, but, but goodies station. And, and so there was a lot of like fifties and sixties, maybe some early seventies creep in there, but mostly it's fifties and sixties.
And so, this song is talking about. Hang down your head, Tom Dooley. 'cause you're about to die for murdering your wife and stabbing her to death. I think I missed that one. Yeah. So when my dad played in the car, like to me it might as well, might as well have been Eminem. Yeah. At the time. Because I was like, what?
They're talking about murder? Whoa. Muck, muck duck. Like so. So anyway, so because I knew we were doing Song of the Week and it is my favorite segment. I did a little Wikipedia dive and I wanted to know more about the song. And so, okay, Tom Dooley do love actually, but Tom Dooley was a real man. Okay. And in 1866, he murdered a woman who was carrying his child by the name of Laura Foster.
Okay. Damn. Now, and Foster, who's Laura's cousin, had been Tom's lover starting when he was just 12 years old. All right. Okay. What? And that continued up until the time that he left for the civil war, which was. Even after Anne had married an older man, she was still romanticizing the youth. And so she messed him up.
She messed him up. I think so. So Tom returns from the war and he again becomes a lover to Anne again. He didn't learn his lesson. And then to her cousin, Laura. Oh, no. And then to their cousin, Paulina, what? Yes, man. He really got around a damn time. Eventually. Paulina told authorities like what was going on with Tom and Ann.
And she thought that maybe they had something to do with it. So when they went and found the body, they immediately went to Ann and Tom and they were like, you know, yeah. And he swore up and down that he did not harm Laura. Mm hmm. But that he deserved the punishment that he got, which led everybody to believe that and probably killed her cousin because he was going to marry Laura and they were gonna have a family and live happily ever after.
So out of jealousy and killed her cousin Laura. And then he took the fall for an who was acquitted. Holy shit. Then three years later, she died. That's and that's all condensed into a song. Like yeah, and so like the only part that I that the song teaches you is that a guy killed his wife with a knife and He's gonna hang tomorrow.
Like that's the only thing the song really tells you you don't get the context No, you're like wait, there was a way more here. It was a four-way and there was like, you know what I mean? How could you leave that out? That's the best part! there was just like Yeah. Yikes. Inner family struggle with Tom Doola in the center.
Ooh. Not a good picture. He must've been hung or something. Also also listen, we're in West Nashville so if you can hear the helicopters going over, it's not, it's not anything to worry about. It's all good. Okay. It's just the medevac. It's just the medevac chopper or somebody looking for a missing fugitive.
Uh, I don't know. Uh, when they get like, yeah, like, oh my gosh, that's my go-to. That's in trio. Tom Dooley. Check it out. All right. I'm going to up my game next week because I feel like normally I come at it with more depth, but I was just feeling like easy peasy tonight. And then we got Tom Dooley. It's like that.
15 minutes on history lesson on Tom. That's great though.
Well, I think we should. Let everybody know a little bit about us and like how we got here. Let's just talk about why we are even in this city to begin with. And it's a lot, your story is a lot more interesting than mine though.
So I feel like you should go first. Well, it's more interesting. I promise. I don't think so at all. I just think that. You know, everybody has, has their story coming to Nashville. Um, and, uh, mine certainly took a longer path to get here than I wanted to. I wanted to be here probably as soon as my sophomore year in high school.
Um, you know, life gets in the way sometimes. And, uh, after high school, I ended up. Joining the military, join the army, uh, got deployed to Iraq, came back with a better understanding for what I wanted to do with my life, which was pursue music. And I didn't want to waste any more time doing that. So instead of going to college, I moved.
I may have moved straight. Well, about a year later, I moved to Nashville, but I'd already known like in Iraq that that's where I was going. If I survived this, I was like, the first thing I'm doing is taking this check, putting it in the bank and packing my stuff and getting ready to move to Nashville. I just think it's so crazy that you knew, even in high school, that you knew when you were younger, that you wanted to be a performer and that this is like what you were meant to do.
Well, when I was younger, I, I definitely. Whatever was cool at the time is what I kind of gravitated towards. So like when we were on the school bus and there was, when I was living in Arizona, the kids that I sat with would listen to Pearl Jam or Nirvana, you know, and then, uh, and, and Michael Jackson, the history album had just come out.
And so you got to hear all of the great hits and then you got to hear his newer stuff. Michael was huge in my life, at least, as far as. As making an impression on me, for wanting to be a performer, Garth did something similar where I was like, there's no denying his life and just, yeah, I'm in awe of it.
And so anybody that, that was able to do that, I gravitated towards. So whether that be, boy bands or, or. We know he had a boy band era. Hell yeah, I had a boy band era. That's just so cool. I had no idea, like, that I was gonna end up in music at all. Really? Not at all. Like, I mean, I grew up listening to my mom.
She was a singer. I mean, she did, like, a lot of gig stuff. But she was doing other things for, like, work. So, and then my My dad plays music and then my stepdad also plays music. So like we were always a musical family. and I was, I had a lot of that influence, but it was never like, Oh, this is an actual career path.
This is something you can do. I didn't really see it that way until probably, I mean, I started writing when I was in college and, By the time I moved to Nashville, I was like, okay, this is, you know, this is a viable thing. People can make this happen. But I hadn't, I didn't start making money doing any sort of music stuff until I was probably a sophomore in college.
So I didn't even know that it was like a thing. And, you know, so just to go from zero to Oh, By the way, now you're moving to Nashville. It was, it was a whirlwind through my college years. And that's when I met a producer that we both worked with. And, they had this project that they were working on and he really wanted to bring me on.
And I was like, man, a job right out of, you know, graduating. I mean, that's like I've heard of like, especially in Nashville, like a paying, a paying gig. That's unheard of. Yeah. That's outsourced. I mean, you have so much incredible talent right here in town. so for that. I will always be grateful to that individual, but, now you got a best, I mean, really that, what I'll say for that individual, because I don't, I don't want to like hang on it too long.
But what I would say is that, the intent and the passion that, that those people had was probably second to none. when we started and, and I wish that we could have. Yeah. Taking that show even further than we did. Yeah, but I think we did everything that we possibly could with with what we had to work with at the time for sure.
And, uh, you know, it was something that I wasn't proud of when we were doing it. but looking back on it now, I'm so glad we did. Oh, hell yeah. And I learned a lot myself, you know, like I came in there kind of The cocky veteran. And I'm like, I don't want to be doing this. he says that, but that's literally like, well, we'll see that we got singing other people's songs.
I didn't want to be doing that, right? Yeah. Like, cause it felt like I was going backward. Like I'd worked so hard to get to a point where you could, I was writing for other people and I could perform my own original songs. And now I'm, I'm almost like a cover band again. And it, it was a blow to my ego. Um, yeah.
But, you know, I'm glad that it happened for myself too, because it kind of humbled me once I got in there and realized. Like, Holy shoot, like every single person here can sing, everybody had the look like it was just, they did a great job casting, uh, that show and, yeah, I mean, I, I think everybody, you know, there were a lot of ups and downs during it that we, you know, but overall what I would say is it was a positive experience and I'm glad that we did it.
And I'm glad, especially if nothing else, like for the friendships that we made, Yeah, you guys are like my family. I mean, we all have crazy holidays together and yeah, it's friendsgivsmas this year because of all of our schedules. We were going to have friend the second annual friends giving, but now we're going to have friendsgivsmas.
Gives miss. Sure. Something like that. Yeah. Oh, we're going to combine Thanksgiving and Christmas and then yeah. Yeah. It's going to be great. It's going to be awesome. Food. Delicious. Yeah. It's going to be so much fun. So if you're here in Nashville on the 15th, come join us. Party. Hopefully this will air after that.
Yeah, exactly. They're like, um, where's my invite? I'm sorry. Not because we don't want to spend it with you guys. Uh, yeah, no, especially because we're not throwing it here in this luxurious estate that houses our podcast studio. We're throwing it in my little place, which is like tiny, not tiny. And it has an amazing, it has probably the best view of, of Nashville at night of.
Anywhere that I've seen at least in town. Mm hmm. I get my parents like I put that one up there Oh, that's I ride that no like then I went over to your place and I was like, you can see the airplanes land Is like right yes, you just watch them coming in. Yeah They don't go right over us though, which I'm sad cuz I like to watch him when they're close that hill that's off of Edmondson and The next one over, sorry, off of Nolensville Road and Old Hickory, like we're at that conjunction.
There's a street up there called like Zermatt or something, but it's, uh, got a lot of cute townhomes out there. I swear you could reach up and touch the planes like that is awesome. The flight path is so low and I'm like, I want to live on that hill. That is so cool. That was one of the added bonuses over here was that I wasn't expecting.
Um, yeah, Oh yeah. Cause you guys have the tiny one because the small airports and so all day long, the smaller planes are coming in over here. Yeah. And, uh, yeah, it's one of my favorites. I have, uh, I bet you to my neighbors. I look like a weirdo because I'm standing out there with one of these large, like police radio radios and I'm listening to the air guys.
Yeah. But I'm honestly just listening to the air traffic controllers talk to the pilots coming in over. He's trying to see if there's anything sus happening. Can I be the first on the scene? Like Jake Gyllenhaal and in a night watch or whatever that movie Nightcrawler Nightcrawler Nightcrawler. Uh, all right, let's see.
What if I just asked you right now? What you thought moving to Nashville would be versus what it actually was. Okay. Go. That's what you want me to answer? Yeah. I thought that, um, I think before I moved here, I thought I could really make a name for myself quickly in Nashville because everybody kind of played the same stereotypical character.
And I saw so many openings for the opportunity to create something new and different, you know, it was still the cowboy hat era. It was still a lot of the long-hair era. Um, and so I came in. You know, I went, what is nobody doing? And I was like, no one's wearing diamond earrings. So I put diamond earrings in and I said, no one's wearing a ball cap, which sounds crazy now because it's just like everybody does it.
But when I moved here, not a single person was wearing a ball cap and it's what made me stand out because people were like, who the does he think he is? You know, rolling into a nice dinner. With a suit on, but he's wearing a hat, does he think he is? Yeah. Yeah. I think just how many talented people there were.
Yeah. Yeah. I think, I think I thought it would be faster. I think that's a common misconception though. I feel like for me it was. I moved here feeling like I knew a little bit. I like, had a little bit more of that perspective only because it had been drilled into me from mentors from where I was living originally when I was going to college.
The gentleman that I was writing with at the time, shout out David. Uh, he was awesome. And the guitarist that I was working with at the time and the producer, like everybody was pretty transparent with me of the fact that like, you have to want it more than you want anything else. And I just didn't at the time.
I still like, don't have that overwhelming need to be on stage or, you know, like have music out there., I wish, I wish that I had that in me because I feel like I could have, you know, really done something exciting. Had I had that just like consistent drive and that passion. but because I went into it knowing that that was something that you needed, I was kind of already like, yeah.
I'm gonna take this opportunity and see where it goes, but I wasn't like dead set on like doing anything I needed to to make it work because I was warned about the things that can happen in, you know, rooms and with doors closed and specific meetings that, you don't necessarily want to take and things like that.
So I think my rose-colored glasses were a lot less rosy and I moved here with the intent to see what it was all about, but also try and like, keep my eyes peeled, which I'm kind of sad that I came into it so cynical because right off the bat, I was like, nah, I'm not going to do that. Or if anybody reached out to me, I'm like, man, that's probably a scam artist.
I'm not even going to follow up on it. Or, you know, there were just so many things that, Probably could have been dealt with differently, and I could have put more into it and fostered more of those relationships and, like, dug my roots in a little bit deeper with this amazing community. but it was just like, what I thought about it versus when I got here.
It looks very different than how I feel about it now, which is, I'm just so thankful to be here. I moved away a little bit during COVID and then I had to get back cause I was like, I miss it. You know, I took a place that I was literally taking for granted and then I was like, well, shoot, I need to go back now.
So we're glad you did too. Yeah. Yeah, it was quiet and boring after you have, I'm a little bit of a mess, but I'm a fun mess. So you are a fun mess to be back, but yeah, so that's a little bit about us. We'll get more into it as well. Um, we've got lots more to share some really fun stories, some not so fun stories, but like.
All in all culminating to how we ended up on this couch, right? Meow, right? Meow, right? Meow. But yeah, I mean, I think the, the main reason we wanted to do this was because of course there are things we don't like traffic. of course there are things that we don't like new people. Of course there are things we don't like.
Asterix, if you're a new person coming to town. And don't take it personal that I'm so bitter, but I'm that guy that's going to be on the porch. He's just seen waves and waves and waves of them. Yeah. But we were all new people once. So if you're tuning in to learn more about Nashville or how to make it or listen to why we didn't make it and we're on this couch right now, exactly.
Like we're not going to pitch anything to you. That's catapult you to number one, but like, We're just giving you an honest review of our lives here and things that have been successful for us and things that we've enjoyed. I think that most, most, most people that put products out similar to this are looking for, the fame part of it or the.
The monetary success, like, I think we just did this because we like to talk. We like to talk first of all, but, but to, we know what it's like coming to a city like, like this. Yeah. And and I think it was Harlan Howard who said it. Here, I want to read the quote because I don't want to mess up his words.
Yeah. Harlan Howard said this though. He said secrets to songwriting. And he goes, hits are just awfully hard to find. Great. Original ideas are awfully hard to find. Nashville is like any other creative industry. We could always use one more great songwriter and I wish he or she would hurry up and get here.
Oh, I love that. And that's my hope for you guys. Like the, the more people that come here, learn. The art of, of songwriting, the better the future is going to be for music. And like, that's all we really want is to be a small part of it and not, not in a negative way. Yeah. Yeah. You know? And so we want that for you too.
And just bolster the people that are coming here, push them up, encourage each other. And like, we have some amazing friends in the industry that are singers, players, performers, writers, producers, like. There's room for all of us and don't let your art go unnoticed. Like whatever it is you need to do to get here and get here and just enjoy the ride.
It'll be a shit show, but it'll be a fun one. Yeah. I think that's the way that we end it because, uh, the, the last thing that I wrote down in my notes was what I think about Nashville is this in a nutshell, as Tim McGraw saying, stay humble and kind. But you also got to be willing to cut a bitch. That's accurate.
And that is in a nutshell. All right. Well, the last thing that we like to end on, um, is we call I read it on Reddit. Trademark Julie Kanye's, okay But yeah, this is a lot of fun because we find the most ridiculous things and then we share them with each other But we don't like pre vet them. So he's gonna tell me hasn't heard what I'm about to read I have not her reaction.
I have to but I don't know which one to go with. I can save one for the next time. Do the shorter one. Shorter one. Okay. Just in case. Um, precursor, the word shit is in here about four or five times. So if you've got kids listening in the car and you still let them listen this far, I guess it's, you might as well let them listen to the end.
Yeah, you're fine. It's not gonna get worse than what it was earlier. Kids are resilient. Calm down. That's right. That's right. All right. So it goes, I'm extremely torn by a 21 female. 21 year old female and my partner, a 23 year old male recently let a friend 29 year old male move in with us. He's honestly incredible and he helps with chores and cooking.
He's honestly the perfect roommate except for one issue. He quite literally shits his own pants and I don't mean little streaks. I mean, he takes a whole dump. It smells and it seeps through his pants. He also wears the same pants for a week straight, including while sleeping. Yes, he sleeps in his jeans.
At this point, my furniture, my boyfriend's car seats, and my washing machine all smells like it and it's driving me crazy. My boyfriend brushes it off because he doesn't want to embarrass him. But I'm at wit's end. I don't even go in my living room anymore because I don't Know what to do. How do I bring this up in a way that doesn't offend him?
How do I get the shit smell out of my couch and chairs? I'm at a loss here. Also, I'm sorry about the foul language. I'm just so fed up. There's no, there's no way that that is true. I know, right? Thank you. Is that real? It's real. I know. I believe you, but I don't know if I believe them. Yeah. The person that a parody first comment goes, do you think it's concerning your roommate is taking whole dumps in his pants and your biggest concern is embarrassing him by bringing it up.
I would roast that mother to no end. That's what good friends do. Otherwise he will keep shitting his pants. Oh my God. Oh my God. I was just scanning. That was a gold mine. I was just scanning through Reddit last night and I saw roommate shits his pants and so I'm like, what is this? You're like, hold up.
And I got halfway through that and I'm like, oh my God. That's what I'm gonna read tomorrow on the podcast. That's what we're gonna lead with. Music City and bathroom humor. I side with the guy who's like, tell that m***er. You wrote that comment. Ty Williams, 2023. Oh my God. All right. Well, there's plenty more ridiculous stuff to come.
We are so happy that you guys stuck around for this long. If you made it to the end of the episode and you have. Feelings. Let us know. You can write to us at nashtpodcastatgmail. com spelled just like you'll see online and everywhere. Nashtpodcastatgmail. com. Go ahead and let us know your thoughts. If you disagree or if you just want to roast us and what Ty's wearing, that's fine too.
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I only say that cause he changed like five times. I started off with a nice blazer for you guys and now we're down to like, he did. He's wearing like a Sesame street shirt underneath them. That's very on brand for you. It's fine. It's fine. We love you guys. We'll see you in the next one. Um, until then. Bye.
Peace.